李奥纳多：父亲是我比较好的老师

　　I thought it was very interesting what yousaid earlier about Cambodia

　　我觉得你刚才所提到的柬埔寨很有意思

　　because I was there, one of my favoritecountries

　　因为我曾经去过那里 它是我最喜欢的国家之一

　　and it changed me as a person so

　　那趟旅行也改变了我的人生

　　How long were you there?

　　你在那里待了多久？

　　Um well, we were there for a couple ofweeks

　　恩 我们在那里待了大概两三个星期吧

　　because we did a trip in Vietnam andThailand

　　因为我们去了越南和泰国旅行

　　I didn't went to Vietnam, aswhat I want todo next

　　我没有去过越南 但我接下来想去那看看

　　You mean that's what you have to do next

　　你是说这是你接下来想要做的事吗

　　--Yeah

　　--是的

　　Yeah, oh yes

　　噢 这很棒

　　I'm a temple guy though that's why Cambodiafor me was amazing

　　我是个喜欢寺庙的人 所以柬埔寨对我来说是个很棒的地方

　　--Yeah, and it's inspiring

　　--是的 而且你能在那里有所感悟

　　I know and the people are just the sweetest

　　我明白 那里的人都非常非常友好

　　can't imagine nicer people on earth

　　想象不到地球上还有比这更友好的人了

　　They lost so much and yet they're soappreciative of everything they have

　　他们失去了很多东西 但他们仍对自己所拥有的一切充满感激

　　You know they don't have a lot

　　你知道的 他们拥有的东西并不多

　　Anyway congratulations on this movie

　　无论如何 祝贺你的这部电影所获得的成绩

　　I love it, it's a phenomenal experience towatch this

　　我很喜欢这部影片 观看这部电影带给我了现实般的体验

　　but to actually be in it that must be asurreal experience as well

　　但要真正地参与其中 那一定也是一次超现实的体验

　　It was the whole experience was surreal anddifficult

　　整个拍摄的经历是超现实的 并且也十分困难

　　but I knew what I was signing up for

　　但我清楚地知道我所追求的是什么

　　you know I think that Alejandro and I bothunderstood that

　　我想亚利桑德罗和我都明白这一点

　　we were going to kind of together take thispoetic existential journey into nature

　　我们要一起让这次诗意之旅成为现实

　　and ultimately² our experience wouldinfluence the narrative³ of the picture

　　最终我们的经历会影响到影片的叙事感

　　and I think it very much did

　　我认为这一点非常重要

　　we knew what the end result was going to be

　　我们知道最终结果会是什么

　　It's a very linear⁴ story, a man that haslost absolutely everything

　　这是一个非常连贯性的故事 主角是一个几乎失去了一切的男人

　　All the chips are stacked against him andhe has to find a way to

　　所有的筹码都对他不利 所以他必须想办法

　　He has to explore the will to live

　　他必须找到让他继续生存下去的意志

　　and it's an inspiring story

　　这是一个鼓舞人心的故事

　　it's--you know more so than it beingspecifically about historical fact which it's based

　　你知道的 它是个故事 而不仅仅是个具体的历史事实

　　and it's become this thing of campfirelegend of this great frontiersman that has survived all odds⁵

　　这已经成为这位历经千难万险幸存下来的伟大拓荒者的篝火传说

　　and I knew that Alejandro wanted to dosomething very poetic¹ with that journey

　　我知道亚利桑德罗想在这段旅行中添加一些有诗意的事情

　　and he accomplished⁶ it

　　他也做到了

　　and you cannot just do a movie like thisand just walk off set

　　你没有办法在拍摄完这样一部电影 然后离开布景后

　　and be like okay I'm fine you know

　　马上就能说 好的我觉得自己还不错

　　This is it, let's just go back to reality

　　你没有办法说 就是这样 让我们回到现实中去吧

　　What level did this movie change you likeemotionally?

　　这部电影在情感上来说 对你的影响有多大?

　　Well look, I mean it was like I said

　　我认为--我曾经说过

　　it was without a doubt the hardest filmI've ever had to do

　　这毫无疑问是我拍过的最难的电影

　　and it

　　而且这部电影它--

　　we were doing it for the reason of creatinga great piece of art

　　我们拍摄这部电影是为了创造一件伟大的艺术品

　　and that's what we needed to remindourselves of every time we set foot on that movie set

　　而这也是我们每次来到电影片场时需要提醒自己的

　　because

　　因为--

　　everything you could possibly imagine thathappened to Hugh Glass, we needed to recreate

　　你能想象的发生在休·格拉斯身上的一切 我们都要将它还原出来

　　and that involved a lot of real things that

　　这就涉及到了很多真实的事情

　　myself as an actor had to do

　　作为一名演员 我不得不这么做

　　and you just keep reminding yourself thatyou're creating art

　　你只是要不断地提醒自己 你是在创造艺术

　　and art means something in the world, itreally does

　　艺术于这个世界而言是有意义的 真的是这样

　　You know they say that the best teachers inlife are, there's three of them

　　你知道 人们常说人生中最好的老师有三个

　　It's hardship, well you know empty pockets

　　第一个是困难 你知道的也可以说是身无分文

　　heartbreak and failure

　　然后还有 心碎和失败

　　but what or who is the best teacher in yourlife?

　　那么对你而言 你生命中的最好的老师是谁呢？

　　Who's my best teacher?

　　谁是我的最好的老师？

　　My father yeah

　　我的父亲

　　I would definitely say my father

　　我会很肯定地说是我的父亲

　　Can you review on the relationship that youhave with your dad?

　　你能谈谈你和你父亲之间的关系吗?

　　Oh he's

　　他是--

　　Look, I came from humble⁷ beginnings

　　我出身比较卑微

　　I went to public school, but I always hadloving parents

　　我上的是公立学校 但一直以来我都拥有着很棒的父母

　　Both of my parents were unbelievable

　　我的父母亲都非常优秀

　　So I was incredibly fortunate in thatregard

　　所以在这方面我非常幸运

　　but my father is one of the wisest men I'veever met

　　我的父亲是我见过的最聪明的人之一

　　and he has steered⁸ the course of my life inso many different directions in a positive way

　　他以一种积极的方式把我的人生引向了许多不同的方向

　　whether it be my environmental activism

　　他不但启发了我 让我成为环保行动主义者

　　who I believe I am as a person and as anactor

　　还让我坚信自己 相信自己的为人 也相信自己是个好演员

　　It's completely influenced by him

　　这一切都完全是受他的影响

　　Yeah, and you know the story is not onlyabout revenge⁹, it's also about resilience

　　你知道影片的内涵不仅仅是复仇 它也是一个关于触底反弹的故事

　　In what way or what has made you strongeras a person?

　　那么在你的生活中 是什么事情让你变得更强大了呢?

　　A number of different things I think that--

　　我认为有很多不同的事情--

　　you know

　　你要知道--

　　what gives me strength all the time

　　一直以来能够给予我力量的

　　is to be able to have formulated a group ofpeople around me that are my friends and my family

　　是陪伴着我的那群人 我的家人和我的朋友们

　　you know those two words are meshed in myopinion

　　你知道这两个词在我看来是相互交织的 朋友即是家人 反之亦然

　　but it's given me a grounding that asinsane as my life canbe sometimes is always refreshing

　　他们就是我的后盾 让我疯狂的生活中也能有振奋人心的事存在

　　and they're always so honest with me

　　他们一直以来对我十分坦诚

　　and I'm so thankful for that

　　对此我也非常感激